Monday, June 19, 2006

Hidden in Plain Sight?

One of our members came up with a very, VERY, interesting question. It seems they were looking at their cover of Gary Troup's book, Bad Twin, and noticed something odd. Take a look for yourselves:

See anything?

Look a little closer at the stick and its shadow. Some are speculating that the stick is an "I" and the shadow is an "S". When looking it at that way, the cover appears to read: "Bad Twin is Gary Troup".

What does everyone else think?

Can this somehow help us on our quest to find out the truth about the Valenzetti equation?


Anonymous Tresbien said...

Yes, it very clearly spells out Bad Twin Is Gary Troup in the sand and with the s shadow from the stick. So if Gary Troup is the bad twin, where is the other Troup sibling? I have written to Hyperion Books asking for contact information for this person or other members of the family. No doubt he or she has all of the notes and manuscripts for both "The Valenzetti Equation" and the book Gary Troup was working on when he took that fateful flight.

I also want to learn what other novels Gary Troup has written. The cover of "Bad Twin" cites that this is his final novel, but we have been unable to find any others. Let's all work together and demand that Hyperion come clean about what has happened the these important works.

6/19/2006 10:03 AM  
Blogger vexingmodstwo said...

Whoa! Gary wrote more than two books?

6/19/2006 1:49 PM  
Anonymous eatablepixie said...

I agree...

Gary Troup had to be working on another book when he took his fateful flight. He did mention in his interview covering Bad Twin that he was working on a on new book.

What was he working on next? Where is all his notes?

When writing a book, you tend to have a lot of notes: character bios, timelines, maps of scenes/places within the story, research, alternate situtaions and endings.
By the end of it all you could have enough to write another book if you wanted.

Imagine what we could find out if we had them...

If I judged Gary Troup correctly, I'd say that Mr. Troup probally kept his notes in a very safe place and in the hand of just anybody.

In fact I'd safely guess that he didn't place anything in the hands of any of his family members but in the hands of a trusted confidant. The reason for this being that it would be the first idea of any person looking for any infomation for Gary Troup's to think of his family.

So my question to everyone is besides his publishing agent, who else outside his family would be trusted to keep his notes?
And if he didn't put them in any persons hand then where did place them, in a bank vault?

6/19/2006 2:06 PM  
Anonymous Tresbien said...

Eatablepixie, we do know what Gary Troup had planned for his next book because he talked about it in his interview shortly before his demise. He was working on a book about The Hanso Foundation. Kind of makes you go hmmm when you think about his death so soon thereafter. Listen to the interview again.

6/19/2006 3:13 PM  
Anonymous Tresbien said...

To Vex's comment I meant to add that on the cover of "Bad Twin" it says: His final novel before disappearing on Oceanic Flight 815.

6/19/2006 3:16 PM  
Anonymous shanejc said...

I noticed the stick and the "S" shadow the very first time I saw the cover, shortly before the book was released.

Once I had read it, I decided to dismiss the stick as an "I" and just consider it the "device" used to create the S. Which leaves you with "BAD TWINS".

That I figured is a clever reference to the story... Quite clearly, by the end of the novel, neither of the twins is "good." They are both "bad" in different ways. One is more of a "two bit crook" sort of bad, and trying to mend his ways. The other is "corporate power/greed" bad.

Odds are there are some folks involved with Hanso and the Valenzetti equation cover-up that fit that description. Perhaps Hanso or Mittelwerk have a "con man" twin that could eventually become useful to uncovering the truth. Perhaps by infiltrating Hanso under the guise of the other twin? But we have to locate the "not as bad" twin first, if he exists.

6/20/2006 10:14 PM  
Anonymous psytor said...

I have to agree with shanejc, and say that it's supposed to be Bad Twin(s).

"Bad Twin is Gary Troup" just doesn't make any sense to me.

Still... tracking down Troup's family and friends might give us some insight into what he actually knew about the equation.

6/21/2006 6:09 AM  
Blogger vexingmodstwo said...

Excellent observations, folks.

Let's keep up the research and finding new ways to get to the bottom of it.

6/21/2006 7:29 AM  
Blogger The Boob Lady said...

I think that it's saying Bad Twin Is Gary Troup. Bad Twins to me just seems to easy. Regardless, it could end up meaning the same thing in the long run, but it would make more sense if Gary Troup was in fact the "Bad Twin". Good luck on finding out about family members and family history from Hyperion. I have also tried to contact them but to no avail. Will keep working.. (J)

6/21/2006 9:24 AM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

The stick and shadow are clearly supposed to be something... but I'm not sure they look like letters.

6/21/2006 4:28 PM  
Anonymous lost.stud said...

Doesn't DJ Dan sound more like a "two-bit crook", and doesn't he share (possibly) the same hometown as a greedy, corporate power. Maybe Troupe was leaving us clues in the Bad Twin that forced DJ Dan into the lime-light and Dan's contact is his HANSO twin, trying to right this corporation's wrongs.

6/22/2006 9:40 AM  
Blogger rockman9045 said...

vexingmodstwo, feel free to delete this if you feel it is not the approaite place for it.

Some thoughts on the Valenzetti equation and Bad Twin-

The equation is supposed to predict the end of the world, but couldn't it also be able to predict something else, say the end of Scottish fuedalism (Im no mathematician so Im not exactly sure). Now this is just a theory but maybe this isn't just a mistake made by the publishers, maybe this was Gary Troups way of getting our intrest peaked in the equation, he obviously didn't intend to die in a plane crash, and he most likely thought the book (Bad Twin) would be published before November 28, 2004, keeping this in mind, perhaps he thought that when people read the book they would question how he knew when it ended, with it being fresh in the minds of some of the readers. He could point to the Hanso Foundation and say "Ask them, they have the Valenzetti Equation." This assumes, of course, that he knew beforehand, either thruogh having a part of it in his notes from his book about the equation or mabye someone he interviewed about the equation decided to show off. As I said before its just a theory, and I personally think that this might be addressed in the clips of the interview with Troup that we have yet to find.

"Science is prediction"-Richard C. Hogland

Those are my thoughts anyway, sorry for the length of the post, but i've been working on this theory for awhile now.

6/25/2006 12:28 AM  
Blogger vexingmodstwo said...

rockman, that's a great theory. A very interesting theory, in fact.

He did make a point of "pretending" he didn't want to talk about the valenzetti equation, and also mentioned he was working on another book, specifically about Hanso.

You might be on the right track. Which makes our quest even that much more important. So many mysteries surrounding the equation, so very little answers.

Keep working on your theory and please report back with any information you feel supports it. It can't hurt to explore all the possibilities and while exploring, we might find the truth.

Thanks again, and don't worry about long posts... we welcome them.

6/25/2006 7:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the stick is not an "I" rather it says Bad Twin"s".

Just a thought

6/27/2006 10:49 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

About him writing more than one novel-- This is from :

Bad Twin was delivered to Hyperion just days before Troup boarded Oceanic Flight 815, which was lost in flight from Sydney, Australia to Los Angeles in September 2004. He remains missing and is presumed dead. In addition to his many novels of mystery and crime, Gary Troup authored several non-fiction books including "The Valenzetti Equation." His disappearance is mourned by all who knew him and enjoyed his work.

6/28/2006 12:51 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

I have always been a bit bugged about about the assumption that the reference to Scotish feudalism was a continuity error, or something along those lines. A change of that magnitude would not happen over night. To my mind, decisions such as this would be announced to take effect at a future date. So I did some research (aka wiki ;-) ).

IIRC, Troup said in his interview that he likes to include real-life things in his book. I'm not sure when the planned publication date of Bad Twin was, but I imagine it would have been a short time after Nov 28, making his book very current.

Admittedly that doesn't have anything to do with the Valenzetti Equation (at least, it doesn't appear to!), but its timely and topical nature may tie into his planned next book, Hanso attaining every copy of Troups' VE book and Troup's disappearance.

6/30/2006 6:20 PM  

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